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Crepuscular | July 22nd, 2016, 12:14 pm | |
Boiling Springs, PA Posts: 923 | Nice post Jason as always wonderful photos! interesting water to fish I'm sure. | |
Jmd123 | July 22nd, 2016, 2:52 pm | |
Oscoda, MI Posts: 2611 | AWESOME fishing, scenery, and photos, Jason! I love streamer fishing too, and can imagine the JOLT those rainbows sent up your arms and into your brains...it's really quite stimulating! Really pretty fish too, I have been catching tiny (well, up to 9") imitations of those lately, but then again, my waters don't look like yours! Congrats on excellent fishing and thanks for sharing. Jonathon | |
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere... | ||
Martinlf | July 22nd, 2016, 10:08 pm | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | Jason, I like the way you figured out what would work. That kind of observation and theorizing is some of the best part of fishing to my mind. Connecting with so many big fish isn't too bad either. | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
Wbranch | July 23rd, 2016, 1:43 am | |
York & Starlight PA Posts: 2733 | Did you encounter any bears? I'm assuming you have a can of bear spray, or a high power hand gun, on your person whenever you are fishing those remote rivers? My friend just got back from the Naknek. The fishing was off because the river was about 2' high but the trip included two fly outs. On one fly out my friend, his brother, and the guide encountered a sow grizzly with three cubs. Even the guide said it was a dicey situation. The bear was only about 20' away and for about three minutes it was trying to decide whether to kick their butts or move on. It did move on. The guide had a slug shotgun aimed at the bear just in case. The first round was a rubber bullet, the second round a sabot slug. On the fly out they caught many dollies to 24" and grayling to 18". | |
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years. | ||
Troutnut | July 23rd, 2016, 2:53 am | |
Administrator Bellevue, WAPosts: 2737 | We didn't encounter any bears. The only sign of predators was the wolf tracks. There weren't any easy-to-catch salmon in this area, so nothing to attract bears. We did both have high-powered revolvers, though. My friend has a .454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk and I have a Smith & Wesson .460. Sounds like your friend had a good adventure! I haven't had any close calls like that with bears, but I know people who've been charged by grizzlies. (False charge, fortunately.) | |
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist | ||
Wbranch | July 23rd, 2016, 3:07 am | |
York & Starlight PA Posts: 2733 | Jason wrote;My friend has a .454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk and I have a Smith & Wesson .460. Well with that kind of firepower you are well prepared for any situation that turns bad. Hopefully that will never happen. | |
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years. | ||
Jmd123 | July 23rd, 2016, 4:27 am | |
Oscoda, MI Posts: 2611 | "...a .454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk and I have a Smith & Wesson .460" OUCH!!! A S&W .44 magnum is quite enough for me, but then again I only have to worry about black bears, not grizzlies...or moose! I have heard that moose are considered to be the most dangerous North American mammal. And that boggy country looks like moose country to me. So Jason, how would you describe the recoil on those guns? And I think I would go with the 12-guage slugs, if it was convenient to carry a shotgun. Yeah, if I were deep in that country, I'd likely find a way to pack a shotgun... Jonathon | |
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere... | ||
Troutnut | July 23rd, 2016, 5:48 am | |
Administrator Bellevue, WAPosts: 2737 | And I think I would go with the 12-guage slugs, if it was convenient to carry a shotgun. Yeah, if I were deep in that country, I'd likely find a way to pack a shotgun... Yeah, 12 gauge slugs are really popular for bear defense up here. I have a Remington 870 Marine Magnum with a pistol grip that I used to carry for that purpose, but I stopped because it was too awkward to carry with my other gear in most situations, let alone at a position ready for a quick draw. So Jason, how would you describe the recoil on those guns? My .460? Like trying to catch a baseball bat in your hand mid-swing, while wearing just enough padding not to break anything. If you can picture the kick of a .270 long rifle or so being compressed into a pistol grip, it's about like that. The muzzle energy is similar. One nice thing about the .460 is you can shoot less severe ammo out of it, including .454 Casull (still kicks, but doesn't leave your hand hurting after 5 shots) and .45 Colt (feels like a .22). I carry the full .460 rounds for bear defense but practice sometimes with the lighter ones. It's a fun gun to shoot with the .45s. | |
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist | ||
Partsman | July 23rd, 2016, 9:08 am | |
bancroft michigan Posts: 420 | Excellent, thanks for sharing. Mike | |
PaulRoberts | July 23rd, 2016, 11:07 am | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Wow. Exciting to watch. Thanks for sharing your adventure, Jason. | |
Oldredbarn | July 23rd, 2016, 11:31 am | |
Novi, MI Posts: 2608 | Wonderful post Jason! Nice looking wild trout. I'm heading towards the West Yellowstone area soon...I found my bear spray canister and was happy to see that it won't expire until next year. :) In 2013 I came a tad too close to old Scareface at Soda Butte in Yellowstone Park...I had a friend send me a note that someone shot him last Fall...From what I heard he was looking ill and scrawny anyway...The Ranger that pointed him out to me in 2013 said he was around 25 at that time...That's an old bear. I was getting a little superstitiously concerned...The only bears I have ever seen in the wild were in Yellowstone and they seemed to be getting progressively closer each time. In 1995 I saw a Black Bear on Mt Washburn a ways off. in 2004 at the Third Meadow of Slough I saw a Grizzly that was a tad too close for this Detroit boy. Then finally in 2013 when I was standing on one side of Soda Butte and the old bear was standing just on the other side of a creek that wasn't much wider than a ditch! Anyway...Nice post! Spence | |
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively "Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood | ||
Jmd123 | July 23rd, 2016, 1:44 pm | |
Oscoda, MI Posts: 2611 | Geez Spence, what's with you and bears? You must not make enough noise in the woods. I'm in bear country pretty often - every time I'm on the Pine at Rearing Pond Road, where I actually saw one four years ago, and at [REDACTED] Pond, where I listened to one grunt his way through the blueberries two years ago. However, not only do I let them know I am there upon arrival, I am generally cussing at the trees that are grabbing my flies so much that I'm sure that keeps them away too. "Man, he sounds like he is not in a good mood, let's avoid him..." Jason, that's the nicest thing about the magnum calibers, you can always load them with shorter milder rounds. I have a little .327 Federal magnum S&W with a 3" barrel, and with full-powered magnum rounds in what is essentially a pocket pistol, well it can get painful, but you can also get mild little .32 S&W longs to fire in it. I almost never fire .44 specials in my .44 mag, however, because I like that big bang, it is just as much as I can handle and it freaks out others at the range when the fireballs come out of the cylinder gap. Just like I imagine Jason's gun doing, right Jason? But I digress...that really is killer fishing there Jason, and I'm glad it was worth the rather arduous journey. The latest edition of Fly fisherman has a story about a similar adventure in a saltwater setting that did not end quite so well. Jonathon | |
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere... | ||
Wbranch | July 23rd, 2016, 10:19 pm | |
York & Starlight PA Posts: 2733 | This is one of the guides at the lodge I stayed at in August of 2011. Most of the guides prefer the shotgun with a rubber bullet in the chamber and three slugs in the tube. A couple guides had huge hand guns in shoulder holsters. | |
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years. | ||
Steps25 | July 25th, 2016, 12:19 pm | |
Connecticut Posts: 31 | Great post & pics | |
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TimCat | July 26th, 2016, 7:36 pm | |
Alanson, MI Posts: 121 | Looks like a great time! In the pic of that 21 inch bow, it looks like the mouth extends back to the eye like a brookie... I'm guessing that's the mouth plate (scientific term - Ha). | |
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