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Manny | June 9th, 2007, 9:31 pm | |
Posts: 1 | I was fly fishing a tailwater in Indiana when I noticed a {hatch} of what I thought were sulfers(dorothea,invaria). But after further inspection they had the makup of a crane fly and also were a pale yellowish color. Could this be a crane fly species? | |
Troutnut | June 9th, 2007, 9:36 pm | |
Administrator Bellevue, WAPosts: 2737 | Definitely. Small pale yellow craneflies are especially common on trout streams. I don't know any more about those species, but I'm sure trout go for them at times. | |
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist | ||
Martinlf | June 9th, 2007, 9:54 pm | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | Yes, Flyfisher's Paradise in State College even has its own patterns for orange and yellow craneflies, and I've had very good luck with the flies in autumn. | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
Konchu | June 10th, 2007, 5:24 am | |
Site Editor IndianaPosts: 505 | Cranefly larvae are often really huge, and probably a juicy treat for a hungry fish. What kinds of patterns mimic these, and how commonly are they used? | |
Taxon | June 10th, 2007, 8:51 am | |
Site Editor Royse City, TXPosts: 1350 | Konchu- Probably, the vast majority of flyfishers have never specifically set about to imitate crane fly larvae. However, 3-4XL hooks utilizing a dubbed body of muskrat fur would be standard fare for such imitation. Two patterns suggested in Western Hatches by Hafele/Hughes are Polly Roseborough's Muskrat, and Ernest Schwiebert's Western Crane Fly Larva. The imitations are said to be most effective fished tumbling along the bottom, shortly following a spate, which has disturbed their larval habitat. | |
Best regards, Roger Rohrbeck www.FlyfishingEntomology.com | ||
Shawnny3 | June 10th, 2007, 5:46 pm | |
Moderator Pleasant Gap, PAPosts: 1197 | Another good crane fly larval imitation is the Walt's Worm. The larval crane fly imitations I've seen are basically really vaguely buggy, cigar-shaped imitations that work for both caddis and crane fly larva. Perhaps it's not a lucrative enough hatch to try to imitate them specifically (or they may just be similar enough to caddisflies that most fisherman simply imitate both with the same larval imitation), but I can recall days her in Central PA when crane flies were the only things flying around. -Shawn | |
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Invicta | June 10th, 2007, 6:01 pm | |
Tulare, CA Posts: 23 | I agree with Taxon, the vast majority of tiers do not imitate a crane fly larva, but they should. In the waters that I consider my backyard (Golden Trout Wilderness, Sequoia NF, CA) a crane fly larva is a mandatory summer pattern for the meadow sections of streams. One of the local species is the Giant Western Crane fly (Holorusia rubiginosa). A proper imitation of a mature larva may go up to 50mm by mid-summer, which I have used only in the largest of the surrounding streams, but then it has accounted for rainbows over 22”. Most often we use smaller patterns. One I can recommend, to be added to the pattern listed by Shawn, can be found at Charlie Craven’s website, under Crane fly larva, it's the one I use: http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com If you are unsure of the size, stay small. John | |
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