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Crepuscular | February 6th, 2013, 9:46 am | |
Boiling Springs, PA Posts: 923 | Thanks Jason, I'll have to check it out! | |
PaulRoberts | February 6th, 2013, 11:27 am | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Sounds right up my alley. | |
Oldredbarn | February 6th, 2013, 4:44 pm | |
Novi, MI Posts: 2608 | Jason, I think the reason we may be avoiding this text is our fear that we may find out that what we think we know might be hokum. :) It may be better to romanticize here. If we reduce our query to a pea brained automaton and reduce the "skill" needed to pursue it...I might have to ignore my back problems and sharpen my skates. Spence | |
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively "Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood | ||
Shawnny3 | February 6th, 2013, 5:44 pm | |
Moderator Pleasant Gap, PAPosts: 1197 | That's a really nice book review, Jason. I am struck by the cover. What a great image. Even without seeing the title, the curious look on that trout as it peers at me leaves me wondering, "What's he thinking?" Great artwork. -Shawn | |
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis www.davisflydesigns.com | ||
Entoman | February 6th, 2013, 8:54 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | I'm surprised to see it hasn't come up in discussions here yet... Well, with a recommendation like your blog I'm sure we'll see plenty of discussion in the future! Thanks, Jason. | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
Jmd123 | February 7th, 2013, 6:51 pm | |
Oscoda, MI Posts: 2611 | I've heard of this book before I think, but have not yet read it. Gonna have to find it, sounds good. Just yesterday I was out ice fishing on Tawas Bay, just south of Oscoda on Lake Huron (look it up on Google Maps). I had probably the coolest ice fishing experience of my life, because the water was very clear and I could see all the way to the bottom in 15-20 feet of water. I spent the entire time watching perch investigate and then hit first a jigging Rapala and then minnows on a teardrop jig. It was like fishing in a big aquarium, where every move the fish made was perfectly visible. And it was amazing how much they just fiddled with it and poked at it and swam around it before somebody finally grabbed it and got hooked. Of between 30 to 40 of them only 7 were big enough to put in the freezer...but it was a serious lesson in fish behavior, considering how much time we fishermen spend UNABLE to see just what the heck fish are doing (like 90% or so?). Closer to home for us, back in my UMBS days on the Maple River, I once came across a small rainbow trout, perhaps 8-9" long, that was feeding literally right in front of me, not more than 10 feet away, perfectly visible in all of it's myriad behaviors. Such as, rising to the surface and swallowing every single little green weevil (think a flourescent green beetle in size 20) that floated by on it's left side. I threw flies at this fish and noticed that anything floating by it's RIGHT side was ignored. It took me an hour and a half to finally hook this fish and bring it to hand, and it was missing it's RIGHT eye! As it was facing upstream to my right, it couldn't see me but I could see him (or her?) and all of this fish's reactions to my flies, and of course those tiny green weevils. In those days I was eating anything of legal size, and this fish was back then, but as I was contemplating putting it in my creel it leaped from my hand and back into the river it went. I figured hey, if it's been surviving this long with ONE EYE it deserves to keep on living. Anyway, another fascinating chance to see fish behavior up close and personal. The fish never did tell me how he lost his right eye... Jonathon | |
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere... | ||
Daphillips | February 28th, 2013, 10:20 am | |
Posts: 1 | I registered to this site with the intent of being able to post a message. As a fly fisher and insect lover I just wanted to thank you for your commitment to your website. I love to tie my own unique patterns and your pictures provide a great reference. MANY THANKS AND KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK! Respectfully, David | |
Martinlf | February 28th, 2013, 11:43 am | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | Welcome to Troutnut, David. | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
Troutnut | February 25th, 2015, 6:33 pm | |
Administrator Bellevue, WAPosts: 2737 | Bumping this old thread because I'm curious--has anyone else read it yet? What did you think? | |
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist | ||
MiltRPowell | February 25th, 2015, 8:19 pm | |
Posts: 106 | No I have not, nor never heard of said book. I shall put it on my look for a copy want list. I do have; The Way of the Trout, by M. R. Montgomery. copyright 1991. I like it when someone gives a good heads up on a read. Thanks-Milt... | |
flyfishingthecreekM.R.P. | ||
MiltRPowell | February 25th, 2015, 10:13 pm | |
Posts: 106 | Thanks for the friv-o-lous book review. I'm gonna walk away from that one. It sounds like a, I don't know book, not for me. I am more, The Joys of the trout, The Way Of The Trout, Brook trout,& The Quotable Fisherman. But thanks, but na,ya freaked me out,really with that review,but ya most likely saved me afew bucks. M.R.P. | |
flyfishingthecreekM.R.P. | ||
PaulRoberts | February 26th, 2015, 10:29 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | OK... pulled my post. Didn't mean it to come off that I disliked the book, or thought it not to be of potential interest to many anglers. And it certainly wasn't "fri-vo-lous" if that means frivolous, although I enjoyed writing it. So I gutted the fun from my review and will just leave it at: It's a science book first and a fishing book somewhere further down the line; a worthwhile read for anglers who want to go deeper into the understanding of the cognitive (and other wise –after all they are entwined) lives of fishes. It’s a bit dense (the more you bring to the subject the more you receive kind of thing) for a lay audience, I think. That said, the book is full of intriguing, tantalizing possibilities. | |
Troutnut | February 26th, 2015, 11:14 pm | |
Administrator Bellevue, WAPosts: 2737 | It's a science book first and a fishing book somewhere further down the line; a worthwhile read for anglers who want to go deeper into the understanding of the cognitive (and other wise –after all they are entwined) lives of fishes. I would agree with that. I tried to convey in my review that it's not for everyone. But I think there are a lot of scientifically curious fly anglers (especially on this site) whose curiosity has mostly been directed toward the insects we imitate, and it's nice to see a book for this technical audience that focuses more on the fish themselves. | |
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist | ||
MiltRPowell | February 27th, 2015, 11:44 am | |
Posts: 106 | PaulRoberts, I didn't mean to knock anyones bowl of cheerios over. My meaning per;is simple;per (my) serious attention. With that said, I am sorry, and I shall also leave it at that. Troutnut,I to say sorry ta, for I did not read your review on top of said, page. You did convey in your review that it's not for everyone. With this I hope the cherrios are back in the bowl, & all we have is abit of spilled milk. I'll close this with. Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the differance. | |
flyfishingthecreekM.R.P. | ||
PaulRoberts | February 28th, 2015, 12:01 am | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Not offended, Milt. I pulled my post bc I didn't want it to potentially turn readers off to Dr. Grubb's book. It's a worthwhile read and, as Jason had said, there is not all that much out there on fish cognition for anglers. | |
MiltRPowell | February 28th, 2015, 10:27 am | |
Posts: 106 | The literature of angling falls into two genres: the instructional and the devotional. The former is written by fisherman who write, the latter by writers who fish. William Humphrey My Moby Dick (1978) | |
flyfishingthecreekM.R.P. | ||
PaulRoberts | March 1st, 2015, 8:28 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Apparently there is also the scientist who fishes, and bothers to write. Not sure exactly where he fits: instructional, or devotional to something beyond hooking fish. Hey, just what IS his book about anyway? "There is just as much beauty visible to us in the landscape as we are prepared to appreciate, and not a grain more.” -Henry David Thoreau | |
MiltRPowell | March 1st, 2015, 9:58 pm | |
Posts: 106 | For while the trout fisherman's efforts are ostensibly aimed at taking trout,his preoccupation is concerned with preserving the illusion that his elaborate methodology is at all times justified. Harold Blaisdell The Philosophical Fisherman (1968) | |
flyfishingthecreekM.R.P. | ||
Oldredbarn | March 2nd, 2015, 4:12 pm | |
Novi, MI Posts: 2608 | Ok...I wasn't going to go here, but...I've already upset my friend Tony in a text when I mentioned Bob Wyatt...Anyone heard of him? http://www.amazon.com/What-Trout-Want-Educated-Other/dp/081171179X http://www.sexyloops.com/articles/urinalcaketheory.shtml I think that Mr. Wyatt would rattle a few hackles here...See my original response above. We anglers do prefer to hold tight to our personal fantasies of what it is we are really doing here, when we chase Mr. Trout. :) Otherwise...How could we justify the effort, the long trips, the outlay of dough for tackle? Maybe some would prefer that Pandora's Box stay closed. Spence | |
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively "Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood | ||