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-Fred Arbona in Mayflies, the Angler, and the Trout
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Entoman | February 5th, 2012, 2:22 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | Tony -It may sound strange, but I have found that a black post (or wing) shows up really well, especially when there is some glare on the water. Not at all, you are absolutely right. In my attractor box, I keep my parachute Adams area well stocked with them, and I also use them on a few patterns whose hatches can do that to me as well. Casting into a reflected sunset, it's the only color you can see. Ralph Cutter ties a "bivisible' Paradun with the front half of the post white and the rear half black (or is it the other way around) to cover all poor light situations. Anyway, I tried 'em and wasn't too happy. Besides not liking the looks of them (which shouldn't be a factor but somehow always ends up being one with me), I found that the two that close together tended to cancel each other out a bit at distance; at least for my eyes. My observation (for what it's worth): Interesting, Tony. Are you just talking your homewaters in PA or do you think this is fairly universal in the East? | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
Gutcutter | February 5th, 2012, 7:28 pm | |
Pennsylvania Posts: 470 | Interesting, Tony. Are you just talking your homewaters in PA or do you think this is fairly universal in the East? My home waters - Central and North Central PA. Maybe Bruce, Louis, Shawn, Afish or somebody else can chime in here... | |
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad. -Robert Traver, Trout Madness | ||
Martinlf | February 5th, 2012, 10:54 pm | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | No need, Tony. You're on the money. See you on SC in March, if not sooner. | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
PaulRoberts | February 6th, 2012, 12:35 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Tony, I like the glass bead idea -not too heavy. I tend to start light bc I can then add weight to the dropper if needed. I've got some dark dun posted parachute Baetis I like very much, but lighting matters. I should try black this year. Indicator flies are next up anyway. That emergence progression is spot on for Central NY too. Actual dates likely differ a bit though. | |
PaulRoberts | February 16th, 2012, 10:57 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Here's my latest Baetis "indicator" tie to be fished ahead of a Baetid dropper. It's a size 16. The only real addition to my previous pattern is a bolstered tail (the weak link in an indicator fly) -using splayed fibettes under an Antron shuck. I credit Matt (WBranch) for the tailing change as he uses this tail on his Comparaduns. I will be making some black posts and possibly black/red posts too. | |
Feathers5 | February 17th, 2012, 9:53 am | |
Posts: 287 | Interesting, Tony. Are you just talking your homewaters in PA or do you think this is fairly universal in the East? Oh my gosh, yes, black posts are so much easier to see. Been there and done that while fishing right along side of Antonio. Speaking just for myself, I have a lot of trouble seeing red posts. I use either white, cream or black. Bruce | |
PaulRoberts | February 17th, 2012, 1:01 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Thanks, Bruce. I'll play around with posts some. | |
Entoman | February 17th, 2012, 1:48 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | Nice fly, Paul! Bruce - The hot reds and oranges are really good for non-glare situations where the naturals are in foam lines (or so thick they form their own foam line). For example, the Missouri near Craig, Montana is rife with foam lines full of fish and critters. I've relied heavily on flies like Paul's there, as they're the only ones you can see!:) I agree nothing beats black for glare, but that's a different problem. Luckily, there's a lot of time where none of these problems are an issue. That's when I prefer to match the natural's wing color as closely as possible. | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
GldstrmSam | February 17th, 2012, 3:19 pm | |
Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 212 | I've heard a lot about "indicator" flies and I was wondering how often it is to have a fish strike the indicator fly. | |
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. ~Patrick F. McManus | ||
PaulRoberts | February 17th, 2012, 3:55 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | If the dry fishing is good enough, that's what I do. If nymphs are key, that's what I concentrate on. Nymph and dry together are not the best of both worlds. Dries are good indicators where fish are feeding on both nymphs and adults, and where waters are calm enough that a larger indicator can spook them. The Baetis emergences are a time I often use the dry as indicator, and I do catch fish on both, but it seems I get larger ones on the nymph. If there is no surface activity to worry about then, on flat water, I use a yarn indicator which lands quietly and is simply more buoyant an indicator than a dry fly. I occasionally do some shallow water prospecting with a larger indicator dry (#12 or #14) and nymph dropper, but again both presentations suffer for it. I'm more apt to use, or switch to one or the other as I figure the day out, simply bc I'm more directly effective with one or the other. When nymphing with regular non-fly indicators, I sometimes have trout smack the indicator. But they are more often small fish. | |
Martinlf | February 17th, 2012, 10:01 pm | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | Paul, like you, I much prefer a one fly rig when it's working. But I've taken a few stubborn fish by adding a dropper to the dry, and it sure is satisfying to finally get them to take something. I'm also intrigued with Kurt's system for fishing the nymph only, just subsurface, with a bit of putty, and may give that a go this year, especially in the hour before the hatch starts. | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
GldstrmSam | February 17th, 2012, 10:15 pm | |
Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 212 | Thanks a lot Paul!! Helpful as all ways. | |
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. ~Patrick F. McManus | ||
Feathers5 | February 21st, 2012, 10:57 am | |
Posts: 287 | Tony, Paul. I don't seem to have any luck with glass beadhead flies. I tied a few nymphs with an olive glass bead last year for baetis and I got a cold response. Do you get a consistent reponse to them? Bruce | |
PaulRoberts | February 21st, 2012, 1:25 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Bruce, I've not tried glass beads. So many fun options out there though. You're welcome, Sam. | |
Martinlf | March 6th, 2013, 3:14 pm | |
Moderator Palmyra PAPosts: 3233 | This thread allowed me to catch several fish that refused dry flies this year. I tied Paul's number 2 nymph pattern on page 1 of this thread, subbing Coq de Leon for the woodduck, since I hate it when the fish chew the tails off, and I'm using a Gonzo style poly yarn wingcase, some with a bit of flash. The CDL allows me to fish the fly on the surface pretty easily, even when it's tied on a heavy hook. The fish have taken it both ways, under, with a greased leader and a bit of putty, and fished in the film. I'm looking at Kurt's fly too, and will tie it eventually. Thanks, guys! | |
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell | ||
Sayfu | March 6th, 2013, 4:07 pm | |
Posts: 560 | I use a glass bead on all of my dries...slide one on, and you have the head already created, with no crowding of the head, no lacquer in the eye, and the hackle is easily secured off behind the bead. No whip finish even needed, A double under knot I will call it, and done. Thread doesn't show. And the extra small plastic bead (XSM) will often fit on a #12 dryfly hook...about this size (o) | |
PaulRoberts | March 7th, 2013, 12:17 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Awesome, Louis! | |
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