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Pryal74 | January 20th, 2012, 9:14 pm | |
Escanaba, MI Posts: 168 | These are some of the Steelhead we landed in 2011. In Feb I will be hitting our local rivers with greater frequency, but not on a day like today -6 degrees. It's not as enjoyable and the fish are turned off by the cold temps. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the photos. | |
-James Pryal Into The Wild Fly Fishing | ||
Falsifly | January 20th, 2012, 9:49 pm | |
Hayward, WI. Posts: 661 | Damn those Lyin’ Eyes. | |
Falsifly When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that." | ||
Doublespey | January 20th, 2012, 10:29 pm | |
Posts: 61 | The shape of that last redside looks like a native rainbow. Some steelhead do have that stocky appearance, and look like resident rainbows. | |
GldstrmSam | January 20th, 2012, 11:19 pm | |
Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 212 | Very neat!! You are making my casting finger itchy. | |
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. ~Patrick F. McManus | ||
PaulRoberts | January 22nd, 2012, 12:31 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Great lakes "steelhead" are a mix of mykiss. Some are/were pure anadromous stock, and some non-anadromous domestic (hatchery) rainbow stock. And then they've become mixed in hatcheries and in natural spawning as many GL tribs produce "naturalized" additions. The "domestics" as we called them were notably shorter/stockier (some nearly round!), with "pure" anadromous fish being much longer. There's also a male coho in those pics above. | |
Jesse | January 23rd, 2012, 12:11 am | |
Posts: 378 | Great photos i love to see them! | |
Most of us fish our whole lives..not knowing its not the fish that we are after. http://www.filingoflyfishing.com | ||
Pryal74 | January 23rd, 2012, 11:23 pm | |
Escanaba, MI Posts: 168 | @PaulRoberts, the Great Lakes do have a wide variance of sizes and shapes of Steelhead. We have them run in our rivers here in all season. The summer run Skamania come and are gone within a few days usually. The anadromous ones you mentioned are the original strain taken from the west coast and started here back in the mid to late 1800's. They have that long sleek profile. The later stocked O. Mykiss have that solid, thicker build. You noticed that Coho, good eyes. I didn't even realize it. The river we fished, I have NEVER seen a coho in it and it's not known to hold them. I'll research that when I get a chance. I also noticed that Lake Michigan strains of Steelhead seem to be the most variant in size and shape over Lake Superior. They also seem to grow much bigger. It's common to catch Steelhead over 12 pounds in Lake Michigan tribs and an 8 pounder from Lake Superior tribs, would in fact be a giant. | |
-James Pryal Into The Wild Fly Fishing | ||
PaulRoberts | January 24th, 2012, 11:11 am | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Yeah, Superior is different. I've never been but from what I've gathered about it the steelhead sizes are due to overall trophic status and temperature. Also, I've read there are naturalized strains there, in good numbers, that survived from VERY early stocking. This is likely true in all the GL's (except probably Erie), and there are stories of small runs pre-dating the 1960's and 70's "introductions". Fish of all sorts were planted just about everywhere during the late 1800's -most of those records if kept at all are lost. Surviving records by themselves indicate that almost everything you can imagine was tried at least once. Don't know what the current status of Coho stocking is. They were the "initial" introduction in the 1960's. I LOVED them when I fished the Lake Ontario tribs. They were aggressive and spectacular, compared to Chinooks. Even rotting ones would chase a wet or streamer at times, from which I would quickly yank my fly away not wanting to have to handle the fungus covered monstrosities. But they could be very pretty prior though. One year they were exceptionally large (numbers from 12-14lbs) and due to early rains we had them to ourselves. For a period of a week or so we found pods off a small trib, riding waves to nose into the inflow, and we could see them riding up in the waves, silhouetted within. We began swinging wet flies up the swells and, they being Coho's, would chase. There on the lake front they had room to run, and jump. Gosh, they were fun. | |
Entoman | January 24th, 2012, 4:21 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | Hey Paul, I agree that the Silver is a much better game fish. What they lack in size, they more than make up for in their love for chasing flies. Did you ever try surface poppers? | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
Pryal74 | January 24th, 2012, 5:40 pm | |
Escanaba, MI Posts: 168 | @PaulRoberts, the Coho in Superior are plentiful but not that large as well. 12 to 14 pounds would be phenomenal. I have yet to wrangle one (a real one) on a fly rod. maybe I'll make sure I find one this year. Superior tribs (as far as I know, might be one) you can't fish them while making their spawning runs. I know a few streams where they spawn. I catch their fry one small dries on one river but they are so small they usually fall off on the way in. I have witnessed Steelhead doing that (just not in those numbers) on a small stream here off of Lake Michigan. My brother and I couldn't believe it. We didn't even get out rods out of the car, we just sat and watched them for hours. That does sound like crazy fun. Coho's always seem to put on a good show. | |
-James Pryal Into The Wild Fly Fishing | ||
PaulRoberts | January 24th, 2012, 5:57 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Hey Paul, No! Oh my! | |
Entoman | January 24th, 2012, 6:17 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | Too bad as I would have loved to hear about your experiences. Anybody else? They're a big deal in Canada and Alaska; I'm just curious if they work in the Mid-west. | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
Wbranch | January 24th, 2012, 7:54 pm | |
York & Starlight PA Posts: 2733 | When I went to Alaska in August I had seen a video for the lodge we went to of a silver eating an all red, or maybe it was pink, popper. I tried them a few times to no avail but another guest tried and caught a silver while I was there. You throw it out and just keep chugging it back to you - no pauses. I don't know how to add a live link but here is one you can copy and paste. http://www.lakemarie.com/Surface%20fishing/Surface%20fishing%20for%20silver%20salmon.html | |
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years. | ||
Entoman | January 25th, 2012, 12:19 am | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | Naa... Just click on it guys. Thanks for the link, Matt. | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
GldstrmSam | January 25th, 2012, 2:01 am | |
Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 212 | That was a really interesting link Matt. You hooked me on surface fishing for silvers. | |
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. ~Patrick F. McManus | ||
Wbranch | January 25th, 2012, 9:11 am | |
York & Starlight PA Posts: 2733 | BTW this lodge had no water close enough to fish on your own in the morning or evenings after dinner. All of the rivers were at least one mile from the lodge over very muddy roads, and I use the term road very loosely. Two deep ruts in a mud trail might be a more apt description. A couple of times the two wheel drive pickup truck got mired in the mud to the frame and the guests had to walk a mile, or more, in and then sometimes walk all the way back to the lodge at night if the vehicle hadn't been dug out yet. | |
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years. | ||
Gutcutter | January 26th, 2012, 9:36 pm | |
Pennsylvania Posts: 470 | In a "not so secret", but (relatively) lightly fished river that drains into the Gulf of Alaska, there are silvers that LOVE to smash topwater flies. I spent five consecutive seasons chasing them and then had to cancel my last trip - one that I scheduled with my wife, three months after we were married. That trip was supposed to begin on September 13th, 2001. Fathering four beautiful children over the next five years, I haven't been able to make it back, but I will. I will bring my boys. With the boys,standing waist deep in the glacially influenced stream, I will point out the target, fifty feet away, slightly downstream and close to the opposite bank. Although I'll only be thigh deep, I can't get them any closer. They will double haul a Winston seven weight with a floating line and straight 15 pound fluorocarbon. And they will let the pink deer hair wog drift over the pod of fresh chromers. On the swing, they will accelerate the fly and give a few twitches. They will look for the shadow, and then see the wake behind the fly. After a few misses, they will learn to strip set as the dime bright buck smashes the ugly, yet beautiful, magenta fraud. My boys will hold on for dear life, trying to remember to bow to the fish as he leaps to a height three or four times his body length and then splashes down into the water with more force than is needed to flush one of Spence's stories down the crapper. I hope that they will try to remember to breathe. I'll be there to tail the fish for them and to remember what it was like the first time I ever was lucky enough to catch a 15 pound silver on a dry fly. A few hundred of those takes later, I still see that shadow... | |
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad. -Robert Traver, Trout Madness | ||
Oldredbarn | January 27th, 2012, 11:32 am | |
Novi, MI Posts: 2608 | My boys will hold on for dear life, trying to remember to bow to the fish as he leaps to a height three or four times his body length and then splashes down into the water with more force than is needed to flush one of Spence's stories down the crapper. That's some powerful fish there Tone! :) About the breathing part...They won't. But you know they will eventually somewhere between their pounding heart-beats...:) Tony, you can wax poetic when you want to... Paul...Don't worry about the poke at Spence...Tony and I are old denizens of pick-up hockey locker rooms and that's actually a sign he gives-a-damn. :) Spence | |
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively "Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood | ||
PaulRoberts | January 27th, 2012, 4:05 pm | |
Colorado Posts: 1776 | Paul...Don't worry about the poke at Spence...Tony and I are old denizens of pick-up hockey locker rooms and that's actually a sign he gives-a-damn. :) Hmmmm... I'll have to take your word for it. | |
Entoman | January 27th, 2012, 10:06 pm | |
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604 | SO... Nobody's tried them in the Mid-west? | |
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman | ||
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