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Gutcutter | February 23rd, 2010, 9:54 am | |
Pennsylvania Posts: 470 | what is everyone's experience with these? not just fishing them but tieing them. i tie them pretty well down to #20 but have trouble with the smaller flies. i just started working on them last season and i suspect they will become easier to tie in the small sizes with repetition. they worked well for pmd emergers in paradise valley last summer and i am spinning up a bunch for local hatches. whattaya think? gut | |
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad. -Robert Traver, Trout Madness | ||
Oldredbarn | February 23rd, 2010, 10:10 am | |
Novi, MI Posts: 2608 | Tony, It's interesting that you brought this up. I have been interested in them but have never tied them. I actually sent an email to Hans Weilenmann asking him to maybe do a how-to sequence on his web page. There are a couple out there on the web. Spence | |
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JOHNW | February 23rd, 2010, 2:27 pm | |
Chambersburg, PA Posts: 452 | Tied a ton of these last year with baetis,Hendricksons and Sulphurs in mind. Unfortunatly ma nature countered all of that and I didn't get to adequatly field test them. From the tying side of the coin I found them relatively easy with a little practice and down to a #22. I think a gallows tool would make the procedure a littl more user friendly but I managed without. The biggest challenge was making sure I had decent stems on my hackle. I also went to using fine tippet for my loop on the larger flies (gives me something to do with all of that leftover 7x)it is a good meld of rigidity for wrapping the hackle on with flexibility to fold the loop over I elect to leave out the wings on my paraloops with fussy fish in mind and the thought that I am giving them one less thing to possibly be wrong. One caveat however my favorite style of fly to tie (for fishing purposes) is the standard parachute. So this was just a minor advancement on those techniques. Check out Bob Quigley's stuff on these also. He calls them Hackle stackers but it is essentially the same thing. JW | |
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Gutcutter | February 23rd, 2010, 6:11 pm | |
Pennsylvania Posts: 470 | john the tippet as the post is a good idea. i have been using a wisp of floating poly yarn and that is where the difficulty lies in tying the smaller patterns. there is just too much bulk, even with a small amount of post. i'll give that a try. the hackle that i have been using are saddles about one size larger than standard. i have been flirting with the idea of purchasing a gallows arm for my regal but really haven't seen one i like. any suggestions?? gut | |
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad. -Robert Traver, Trout Madness | ||
JOHNW | February 24th, 2010, 1:07 pm | |
Chambersburg, PA Posts: 452 | Gut, THe tippet will make a huge difference for you! I've never actually tried a gallows tool. For paracutes I generally use a long synthetic fiber that I wrap up from under the shank. On the paraloops I worked out a method where the loop is around my little finger and I used a modified one hand tech with a rotary hackle pliers. I can'really describe it as just to look at it folks are certain I must be triple jointed. JW | |
"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn | ||
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