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Frankcoz	March 27th, 2008, 4:31 am
Posts: 1	Seems like dead drifting the pupa pattern during the emergence time is a good way to fish this before the adults are on the water. Does the pupa retain the orange color of the larva or do they have the color of the adult?
JAD	March 27th, 2008, 6:33 am
Alexandria Pa Posts: 362	I think you have the right idea, I tie it with Golden stone fly dub with a peacock head size 18 and 20 . John
	They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax. Radcliffe's Fishing from the Earliest Times,
Martinlf	March 27th, 2008, 3:55 pm
Moderator Palmyra PA Posts: 3233	I think the pupa itself is dark. For the larvae orange or golden is great, for the pupa I like a little peacock and starling wet fly.
	"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell
Zap	March 28th, 2008, 5:53 pm
Call it albany ny Posts: 4	I've had some luck with a small 18 quill larva. It appears somewhat tannish --with a brown head and ginger hackle. I'm not sure if it's the pupa for the chimmara but it 's gotten some fish during the time thses flies are to be expected. I used stems from hen hackles for the body. TZ
GONZO	April 5th, 2008, 6:53 pm
Site Editor "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 1681	Frankcoz, as a good general rule, the body color of a caddisfly pupa will be about the same as that of a freshly hatched adult. This is because what fly fishers call a "pupa" is technically a pharate adult. However, it is also good to keep in mind that caddisfly adults often darken considerably over time, so "aged" specimens shouldn't be used as models for pupal patterns.
Peregrines	April 5th, 2012, 12:59 pm
Posts: 2	A couple years too late for the original poster by for others that might be curious.... As Gonzo points out emerging pupae have the color of the adult. For imitating the Chimera hatch LaFontaine recommends: Larva: Yellow caddis larva Pupa: Black Deep or Black Emergent Sparkle Pupa Adult: Black Dancing Caddis or Thompson's Foam Caddis Egg layer: Black Diving Caddis mark
Entoman	April 5th, 2012, 3:08 pm
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604	Mark, As Gonzo points out emerging pupae have the color of the adult You left out a very important part of that quote. Freshly hatched adults are very different in color from the adults that have been around awhile. It's the latter trout usually see most often.
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