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Red_green_hJanuary 6th, 2021, 2:48 pm
New Mexico

Posts: 90		Tried tying my first fly and it was a disaster. My 1st effort was going well until I accidentally clipped the thread in the middle of the fly. So I had to start over. 2nd try was not much better. My 3rd try was going pretty good but the body of the fly kept spinning around the hook. How do I prevent this from happening? Did I not start my tie off right?
Ryan Norris
"a day not catching anything is better than a day not fishing at all"
PartsmanJanuary 6th, 2021, 3:46 pm
bancroft michigan

Posts: 420		Red, welcome to the world of fly tying! Not knowing what pattern you are starting out with, I would say get on the internet and find a good video on tying that fly. Probably one of the most popular and easier patterns would be a elk hair caddis. There are a few different techniques envoled with it so maybe starting with something like that maybe helpful. Other than that lay down a thread body for your materials to grab hold of, and learn how to do the pinch wrap to hold materials on top of the hook shank. There are so many good videos and books now a days it just depends on how much time you have and are willing to put into it. The best way to start your thread is at a point where you want your body our dubbing to end, this would also be a point for wings, then wind a single thread body back to were your thread is hanging close to or at the barb. Then tie in tail material and start body material. The important thing for me is always proper proportions and getting wings set in the right spot for dries. I hope some of the better tiers can chime in, but I would still say look up some videos by Jim Misura, he's pretty good at explaining what he is doing and why. Also go to the www.flytyingforums lot of info there. You just gotta put in the time, it will happen.
Mike.
Red_green_hJanuary 6th, 2021, 5:38 pm
New Mexico

Posts: 90		I'm starting with a royal wulff, the first fly I caught a trout on fly fishing. I've watched this particular video over and over again. Practice, not as easy as the video makes it look.
Ryan Norris
"a day not catching anything is better than a day not fishing at all"
WbranchJanuary 7th, 2021, 1:04 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733		Hello Red_green,

I'm starting with a royal wulff


The Royal Wulff is by no means an easy fly to tie even for skilled tiers. It is difficult to apply divided white calf tail wings and the body is a nuisance with the first section of peacock heerl and then the red floss and then another section of herl, then tying in the wings and palmering the hackle. Why don't you select an easier dry fly?

Try a brown bi-visible or a Adams which is a fantastic fish catcher. You don't have to tie in Grizzly hackle tips for the wings either. Just tie in a clump of gray Z-lon or Antron and make a few turns of the grizzly and brown hackle behind, and in front, of the wing.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
DodgeJanuary 9th, 2021, 5:35 am
Posts: 2I have been wanting to delve into fly tying for awhile... I finally took a class a couple weeks ago when I was up at my cabin in the North Georgia mountains... I did it with a local fly shop... a three hour class is what I needed to have the confidence to now tie on my own... I understand you may not have that option, but you might be able to drive somewhere within a couple of hours... start investigating. I will probably continue to look for a couple more opportunities to learn from others... join Trout Unlimited and there may be some local opportunities there.
MartinlfJanuary 9th, 2021, 9:32 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 3233		I'll second the advice on looking at videos, and on starting with easier flies. For the adams you can even omit the wing. It will catch fish just fine without any wing, but the clump antron or zelon Matt recommended will work too, if you figure out how to do that. Specifically the problem with the body spinning means you did not seat your thread well when you started. As Partsman suggests start your thread where you want the body to end. This will show you how to avoid spinning bodies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrmzVEzRMM

Find videos that focus on any steps you are having trouble with, then, as you said, practice. In time it starts to be automatic, just like riding a bicycle.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
WbranchJanuary 10th, 2021, 3:57 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
It will catch fish just fine without any wing



This is a good point. I'm not all that sure that a trout can clearly see the wing on a dry fly. I know the tails and body are important. But once you add the hackle (to imitate the insect legs and to help the fly float) it is quite hard to see the wing when you look up from underneath the fly.

The Adams has two different color hackle. One is a Coachmen Brown (any stiff brown hackle will do just fine) and a Grizzly hackle. That comes from a Plymouth Rock rooster.

I like to strip the fuzz from the bottom of the hackles so there is just a bare stem. Then tie in the bare stem with 3 or 4 tight wraps of hackle. Then tie in the grizzly hackle. If the feathers are long enough you can wrap them, one at a time, around the thread base on the hook to about 1/8" from the eye. Then wrap the grizzly feather right through the brown so the two colors mix. Then build up a nice thread head, tie a few half hitches to secure the thread and add some cleat nail polish to the head to cement it in place.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
CohaJanuary 14th, 2021, 1:16 pm
Cazin, Bosnia

Posts: 28		Here are some great videos that you have to watch carefully.
Attaching fly tying thread & Thread control
Setting bobbin tension
Dubbing techniques
Dry Fly hackle tying technique
Maybe your tools aren't good. Read this article
Fly tying kit

One of the best dry fly and easiest to tie
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