» Family Corydalidae (Hellgrammites)
5 genera (Chauliodes, Dysmicohermes, Neohermes, Orohermes, Protochauliodes)
aren't included.
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Hellgrammites are the vicious larvae of the Dobsonflies, some of the only trout stream insects which pose a biting threat to the angler. The pincers of the adult are even more frightening that the larva's, and they're aggressive enough to use them once in a while.
This family's life cycle does not create good dry fly opportunities, but the larvae may be eaten by trout year-round. They are a secret told only by stomach samples of well-fed trout.Hatching BehaviorThe larvae exit the stream to pupate in burrows in the ground, so their emergence is completely unimportant to trout.Egg-Laying BehaviorEgg-laying dobsonfly adults are never, in my experience, common enough on trout streams to cause any sort of rise, but they are the sort of huge meaty insect that trout are unlikely ot pass up.Juvenile BiologyI do not know how hellgrammites become available to trout, exactly -- perhaps by accident and perhaps they undergo behavioral drift (Behavioral drift: The nymphs and larvae of many aquatic insects sometimes release their grip on the bottom and drift downstream for a while with synchronized timing. This phenomenon increases their vulnerability to trout just like emergence, but it is invisible to the angler above the surface. In many species it occurs daily, most often just after dusk or just before dawn.). They are such large insects and they show up in trout diets often enough that imitations make good searching patterns (Searching pattern: Any artificial fly pattern used when trout that aren't feeding selectively on anything in particular. A searching pattern may be an attractor or an imitation of something specific that the fish might favor even though it's not currently hatching.). In fact, the infamous wooly bugger and wooly worm fly patterns probably owe some of their success to their similarity to hellgrammites.
Pictures of 8 Hellgrammite Specimens:
Recent Discussions of Corydalidae
Best time of year to harvest hellgramites 13 Replies »I have just recently started fishing with hellgies and need some info on the best time of year for catching, bait. Any insight will be greatly appreciated
ReplyDobson Fly 26 Replies »What can anyone tell me about the Dobson Fly?
(General now guys, we don't have to go all scientific with it ha)!
ReplyAnyone have hellgrammite experiences to share? 56 Replies »I'm working on a magazine article about hellgrammites, which I think are a generally underrated food source and an extremely cool group of insects.
I'm going to do a lot of research and combine it with my own experiences, but many of you have been fly fishing longer than I've been alive, so I'd like to see if any of you have stories about them -- catching big trout with stomachs full of them, finding trout rising to the dobsonfly adults, getting bit by these bugs, or anything else.
ReplyFishfly is not a hellgramite 5 Replies »Troutnut ... the term "hellgramite" is reserved for the Dobsonfly (Corydalinae). Though the Fishfly (Chauliodinae) and the dobsonfly are from the same Megaloptera family, at first glance appear similar, and have similar stages of development, they are from different subfamily with differing subspecies and have very different morphology and biology.
The dobsonfly inhabit the more oxygenated waters of riffles and possess only tuffed gills for respiration. The fishfly inhabit the quiter waters of pools and still water. Fishflies have a primative gills called lateral filaments, while some species of fishfly utilize breathing tubes, located posterior, to accomodate the use of atmospheric oxygen for breathing in low dissolved oxygen envirions while remaining submerged.
So .. it is incorrect to use the term 'hellgramite' when talking about the fishfly larvae. They are simply, 'fishfly larvae'. You really should change your reference.
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McCafferty, W. Patrick, 1981. Aquatic Entomology; Chpt. 11, Fishflies, Dobsonflies and Alderflies (order Megaloptera), p. 189-196
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Replytrying to figure out 1 Reply »Posted by
Buggy on Apr 19, 2009
Last reply on Apr 19, 2009 by
GONZOI am from ontario canada and i pick hellgrammites for a local bait shop owner i was just wondering when is the earliest i could start picking...last year i started in june but i hear you can start sooner when is the earliest i can do this??? thanks for your help
serious picker
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